William Dane       1538 – after 1593

 

 

 

Born:   1538 in Bayford near Little Berkhampstead, Herts, England.  (A number of sources are saying 1561.)

Died:   after March 22, 1593, as this is the last mention in St. Michael’s Parish Records, Bishop’s Stortford, Hertsfordshire, England, when “old Dane” receives a disbursement from monies for the poor.

 

 

Spouse:          Alicia (Pennifather) Dane married on November 25, 1562

Children:         Frances Dane

                        John Dane

                        Margaret Dane

                        Mary Dane

                        William Dane

                        Walebridg Dane

                        Annes Dane

                        Thomas Dane

                        Margeria Dane

                        Elizabeth Dane

                       

 

Father’s name:          Richard Dane            of Bayford near Little Berkhampstead, Herts, England.              

Mother’s name:         Mary (Josselyn or Joseline) Dane   of Fyfield or Roxwell, Essex, England.

Siblings:         Richard Dane

                        Mary Dane

                        Sarah Dane

                        Robert Dane

                        Unknown Dane

 

The suggestion of William Dane being the father of our John Dane comes from three sources, The Genealogy of John O. Dane website, contributors to LDS, and, though loaded with big question marks, the Daynes Family Tree website.  These aren’t primary sources, so off I trundled to see what I could find.

 

I’m not clear on the place names of this area of England, but it seems like our various sources are using Little Berkhampstead, Berkhampstead, Bishop’s Stortford, and Herts, Hereford, and Hertfordshire rather interchangeably.  My take is that Berkhampstead is a larger village and Little Berkhampstead is an adjacent smaller manor area.  Bishop’s Stortford is a more ancient name for a market town in the same general area and it is still in use today.  Hertfordshire, aka Herts, is the name of the county containing the villages of interest, Hereford being a variation of spelling.   I found a Bishop’s Stortford traveler’s guide that tells about Dane Street.  It plainly states that the street is named after our John Dane; born about 1587, married Francis Bowyer, moved to Roxbury, MA, USA, etc.  So we definitely establish the family’s presence.  Here are a couple websites that can help:

            Welcome to Town of Bishops Stortfort, Town History.

            The Project Gutenberg EBook of Hertfordshire, by Herbert W Tompkins

            Photo essay from a walk through the area by Tim Bertuchi.

 

William Dane the Ironmonger Alderman:

He is related, but is not the father of our John Dane.  We have to go back a couple generations to another John Dane, click there for more info.

 

William Denne, descended from Robert de Dene, Butler to Edward the Confessor

There is an elaborate genealogy from Combes & Co. Families.  It is rather difficult to follow.  There is a William Denne mentioned that is exactly in the right time period and he appears to have a son named John.  But the places are not sitting well with me.  These families are from Kent County, south of London.  We’re looking for the county referred to as Herefordshire located north of London.  Anyone that works their way through this should share their thoughts with me.  My gut says this isn’t my Dane family, more likely is related to the Denny surname.

 

Or William Dane of Bayford

I found a Kyle Dane family History blog that cites Rootswebs World Connect Project.  It suggests that John Dane’s parents are William and Alicia (Penifather) Dane.  William was born in 1538 in Bayford near Little Berkhampstead.  There is no information regarding Alicia.  It says they had 11 children.  They go back for two more generations:

            Richard Dane, born 1510, having 6 children.  No mention of who the wife may be.

            John Dane, born 1480, and wife Alice Peppercorn. 

Then it adds the suggestion that there is a William Dane born in 1517.  (Shall we deduce that son Richard had a brother?)

 

Danielle Landers adds these details from her research:

William and Alicia were married on November 25, 1562 and had ten children: Frances, John, Margaret, Mary, William, Walebridg, Annes, Thomas, Margeria, and Elizabeth.

 

St. Michael’s parish records offer nothing to help us find William.  There is a record of the church receiving a payment of rent from land and tenement in 1582 from Mrs. Dane. 

 

Next I searched on Richard Dane and I discovered a reference in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol LXXI, publ 1917 and had a Eureka! moment.  Richard Dane is mentioned as being the brother-in-law in the will of Henry Josline.  Also mentioned in his will are other siblings.  Aha!  These Joslin’s (Joseline or Josselyn) are the brothers and sisters of Ralph Josselyn, also my relatives!   Ralph Josselyn’s son Thomas immigrated to New England in 1635.  Descendents of these same two families, the Joslin’s and the Dane’s, found and married each other about 250 years later. 

 

Mary Joseline married Richard Dane.  Their children are William, Richard, Mary, Sarah, and 2 others, one probably being Robert.  They are mentioned in the Will of Henry Joseline, dated July 16, 1611.

 

 

Back to the Genealogy Main Page.